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LarryBirdsMoustache's avatar

I think the first two of these is actually much more intelligible under classical theism than under the more anthropomorphic models you see in popular Christianity, and much more compatible with the way something like Hinduism sees the world.

For incarnation, under a metaphysics of participation, what it means for God to create the world is for Him to express His own attributes (or attribute, if we're sticking with simplicity) in finite forms, so all forms of existence are understood as limited incarnations. The Incarnation, then, is the person in whom God's attributes are expressed with total transparency. Further, the goal of religion is understood as bringing that union of finite humanity and transcendent divinity to all of us. To quote St. Athanasius from "On the Incarnation", "He, indeed, assumed humanity that we might become God." From that point of view at least, incarnation or something like it is not only predicted as some individual thing that might happen in the world, but as the whole point of creation to begin with.

For the Trinity, I think pretty much any explanation is at least somewhat controversial, but the most accepted analogy I'm aware of thinks of the three "persons" (hypostases) of the Trinity more as three logical moments eternally present in the mind of God than three independent personalities. So the Father is analogous to pure consciousness, the Son is analogous to God's perception of his own essence (so we can call the Son the perfect image of God), and the Holy Spirit is the love with which God responds to his own goodness revealed in the Son. This makes sense of some of the language we use about creation being in and through the Son for instance, especially in conjunction with the understanding of creation outlined above. Another interesting presentation of the Trinity along similar lines is in chapter 6 of Solovyov's "Lectures on Divine-Humanity".

I won't try to defend penal substitutionary atonement. It's a pretty indefensible idea. Other theories that also sound hokey if interpreted literally include ransom theory, under which God tricked the Devil into relinquishing his claim on our soul in exchange for Jesus' life, and Christus Victor, in which Jesus conquered all the lesser gods that used to dominate the earth and took possession of everything himself. But the moral improvement theory, using some of the others as a kind of metaphor for the ways in which God draws us toward His transcendence and away from the evil parts of finite existence seems to make sense.

That said, I do not recommend becoming an evangelical Southern Baptist to anybody, but I do think there are versions of Christianity that deal with the kinds of issues you mentioned in ways that make a lot of sense.

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Justin Smith-Ruiu's avatar

Do you have any sympathy for the “Credo quia absurdum” approach to religious commitment? There are many religious people (I'm one of them, but if that authority is not good enough for you, so is Kierkegaard), who thinks it's getting things backwards to look at a religion and say “OK, convince me you're literally true, and then I'll believe you.” Rather, you commit to believing, notwithstanding or indeed perhaps because of the many inherent contradictions and minor inconsistencies of the dogma, and then only once you've committed do the truths hidden behind the mysteries start to become clear. That's one way of going about things anyway, and one far more adequate to the domain of human existence at issue, in my view, than the kind of reasoning that, I grant, would be well suited to a question like “Should I believe in Sasquatch?”

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