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Rajat Sirkanungo's avatar

Hey Amos, I am on substack again. Do you think non-identity problem refutes or creates major problems for Walter Block and Hans Hermann Hoppe type deontological libertarianism?

I am reading this paper by Lukasz Dominiak - https://repozytorium.umk.pl/bitstream/handle/item/5537/Libertarianism%20and%20Obligatory%20Child%20Support.pdf?sequence=1 - and it looks like deontological libertarianism of Hoppe and Block is extremely implausible.

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Peter Foreshaw Brookes's avatar

Thanks for the quick review of the issue with this article! Re the medication example, it strikes me that in one set of cases, it just affects of the development of a foetus _from_ the conception, in which case it can be - given a certain view of personhood - be a matter of giving medication to a person without changing the identity of that person. Obviously this has its own implications for personal identity since the moment of conception preceeds psychological activity (and therefore any psychological continuity), but perhaps the fact that it _does_ fit our intuition that we would just be medicating an unborn person is revealing itself for our notions of personhood and personal identity...

The alternative seems to be that you alter _who_ gets conceived... in which case there are huge questions regarding embryo screening and whether embryo selection alienates parent from child, objectifies child/refuses to treat children/potential children as respected people, etc etc. In terms of embryo screening, I do think there is an answer that could allow for some embryo screening even with strong Christian ideals, at least in cases where IVF is already being done. In the process of IVF, multiple embryos are created. Only one or two can be implanted without posing serious risks to the implanted others' prospects of survival. This situation is analogous to having one or two doses of a life saving medication and five or so potential recipients. It makes intuitive sense that we may give the medication on the basis of the likely contribution of different candidates to wider society (e.g., embryo selection on basis of predicted IQ (by the by, polygenic scoring on IQ is pretty poor at the moment, only explaining ~4% of phenotypical trait variation)). Some would debate whether selecting on potential contribution to society fails to treat each individual as an end in themselves, or fails to respect each individual, etc. But what would be more widely intuitively accepted is giving the life saving doses on the basis of likelihood of the medication working - that seems to follow a basic intuition of treating each as equally worthy of treatment, and giving it in a manner to maximise the amount of life. Under such a situation, embryo screening to pick the one with the best predicted chance of making it to full term seems to fit even with pretty strong Christian (and similar) principles. Seems a bit of a digression, but I think the same could apply in the case of medication that affects the nature of what possible person gets conceived. If you're happy with discriminating medication on the basis of predicted impact on the wider world, then the blindness medication makes sense. If not, then it figures to be reluctant to do so - and wouldn't be incurring harm on Pebbles in the process.

PS I appreciate I may have misunderstood the thought experiment as to whether Pebbles is a different person or not, depending on whether blindness is averted... or if the problem _is_ just because Pebbles would be the same person, but is not acknowledged as a person whilst in the womb. (In the latter case, I would suggest that the fact we think of it as harming Pebbles suggests that our intuitions on personhood do accept that a person's meaningful life does begin before birth, and that we had caveats etc to get around this when it conflicts with other desires.)

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