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My major concern here would be that consent, in order to function as an acceptable ethical basis for inflicting (or failing to prevent) some serious harm, must be contingent on the *continued* approval of a consenting party who is ability to suspend or revoke that consent at any time. This is obviously true when it comes to something like sex: If Frank consents to Betty performing some sex act, but later decides he isn't enjoying it and asks her to stop, it's generally acknowledged that Betty needs to stop, and that she wouldn't be justified in continuing just because Frank previously consented to the idea of it beforehand. And this is even more obviously true if Frank doesn't even remember consenting in the first place! Similarly, I imagine most people who are experiencing tremendous suffering don't *right now* consent to God refusing to intervene, and would in fact desperately want him to. So you'd have to think that God not only got every human being's consent to experience serious suffering unaided, but that he also got every human being's consent to do so with no ability to later change their mind - no cosmic safe word, so to speak. But the problem is that most people would say that's just fundamentally immoral, and that you *have* to build in the option of revoking consent for it to be acceptable in the first place. Personally, when I consider someone being tortured or otherwise horribly abused and crying out for God to save them, the idea that God would be in heaven saying "Sorry buddy, you signed the contract!" does strike me as extremely immoral.

Also, I'm curious about what exactly the fate is of those preexisting souls who don't consent to this. Do they get to go to the special wimp universe where God *does* intervene? Or is the only option nonexistence? Because if it's the latter option, then I think you do get some complicated ethical concerns around power dynamics, obligations, etc. God could create a third option for those who want to exist without the possibility of extreme suffering, but he doesn't, so they're forced to make a generally unwanted decision between nonexistence or possible extreme suffering. Most people would agree that arbitrarily constructing a major decision to deviate from the actual desires of another much, much less powerful person and then forcing them to choose between the two suboptimal choices is the sort of thing that makes true consent difficult, right?

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The link for Mooney's article it's not working 😢.

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