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Amos Wollen's avatar

Ok, as promised:

1. This isn't an objection to anything in the article, only a meta-point about how much it matters. Some questions don't matter, and, as a result, some technically false statements about those questions don't really *need* correcting. Suppose it's true that the total value of some groups is higher than other groups, and that this is true in the context of racial groups (where 'racial groups' is understood loosely enough to satisfy philosophers who are, say, social constructivists about race); even so, I'm skeptical that the question 'are Asian Americans more valuable than white Americans?' matters any more than the question 'do people with an odd number of freckles matter more than people with an even number of freckles?'. Just as we will never, in fact, face a trolley problem regarding people with an odd number of freckles or an even number of freckles, we will never face a trolley problem wherein we're forced to choose between two racial groups. Some false assertions don't matter either: suppose someone falsely claims that people with odd freckles are necessarily worth the same as people with even freckles. Presumably, even if all false beliefs are intrinsically disvaluable, this one doesn't matter very much, especially if its isolated from other aspects of the person's belief system that are practically relevant. You might wonder whether, in the race context, Kershnar's conclusions have any practical import. I suggest they have none. Regardless of which groups contain the most value, all groups members are sufficiently valuable that they have rights, deserve respect, etc. You might wonder whether his conclusion has distributive implications vis-à-vis the allocation of scarce medical resources. But presumably, race is just a very loose proxy for the sum of someone's value, which can basically always be more accurately figured out by considering them individually. (You might charitably interpret Murray et al. to be saying that all groups matter equally *in all senses that matter practically*.)

2. I've never spent a minute looking into race/IQ research because everyone who ever has seems to have been made worse off as a result; but I'm a little suspicious of some of the empirical claims in terms of how they relate to wellbeing. E.g., if Asian Americans do better in schools, it's not clear why this means that they'd have more knowledge, as opposed to merely more academic knowledge or knowledge how to do well in tests. And there wasn't an argument for why academic knowledge is more intrinsically valuable than other types of knowledge one might acquire instead. (Similarly, I wonder about the strength of the putative correlation between IQ and knowledge, as opposed to some particular class of knowledge. Unless there is an argument singling certain sorts of knowledge out, it seems like there's a lot of work needing to be done to do this kind of group level comparison well. [And, who would want to do that?]).

3. Similarly, I have questions - though not objections - about some of the other claims. E.g., if white people get divorced more, does that strongly correlate with less time spent in love? You might think that many people who don't divorce due to cultural pressure are stuck in loveless marriages, and might be getting more love if they divorced.

4. Otherwise, I found the more theoretical claims about wellbeing pretty plausible, though I'm fairly uncertain about this stuff.

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Silas Abrahamsen's avatar

I think the framing here makes it sound more controversial than it is. What would be controversial, I take it, would be to say that it is better for good things to happen to Asians than to whites. The claim here, put more precisely, seems simply to be that Asians have better lives. Sure, that seems right enough. The problem is that saying that Asians are more valuable makes it sound like you might be saying the former, when the claim is really the latter. 

The desert point complicates this a little, but if you really do think value should be desert adjusted, then this implication shouldn't be very surprising anyways. I mean, pick whatever gerrymandered group you want of people with more desert and this implication just falls out.

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